CCSVI (Chronic Cerebrospinal Venous Insufficiency) in Multiple Sclerosis. This video demonstrates how blockage in the veins creates reflux of blood into the brain and spine. From the Bologna conference of September 8, 2009, sponsored by the Hilarescere Foundation
Tag: ccsvi, doppler, Dr. Zamboni, multiple sclerosis, reflux, veins
@Zzozze Please let’s let science settle this matter and not get caught up in goofy conspiracy theories. If CCSVI does cause MS, then a list of low to no profit drugs can be replaced with lucrative surgeries. “Big Pharma” will make MORE money if Zamboni’s thesis is correct.
@GreatAuntCayce The treatment will be available if the research can be replicated. Right now thee simply isn’t enough evidence to declare victory over MS.
The article “CCSVI – The Importance of Replication” by Steven Novella goes into more detail about the research needed.
@halleyscomet
Yes I agree, that it is too early to say that this Liberation Treatment is a cure, but if the procedure is as safe as angioplasty, for a blocked artery, and that it gets people off useless drugs that haven’t worked to improve the condition, then I say let them make the choice. It’s their lives, and I can’t help but feel it is the drug companies putting pressure on the government to slow the progress of this treatment so they won’t lose billions of dollars in sales.
@denabach “there’s something wrong here. That’s my opinion.”
The reason is actually very simple. MS has been seen as an autoimmune disease for a very long time and there are mechanisms by which MS can cause pinched blood vessels. CCSVI, if noticed, was simply seen as a result of MS and not the cause. The recent research has shown that not all MS patients have CCSVI, so if CCSVI is causing MS for some people, it’s probably not the only cause.
@halleyscomet unless you work for the big pharma industry yourself, you ought to understand that’s it’s not about science anymore since at least ten years but only about business. (Just as Bill Gates replied once to one of his devellopers who complained that many costumers found windows uneasy to use. His reply was: “It’s not to use, it is to sale!”. Bertarelli and Vasella could say: “It’s not to cure the patients, it’s to suck money out of their healthcare insurance, as long as possible!”).
I swear, society is getting more and more ignorant everyday. Dr. Zamboni is a fraud and you people who believe him are shame to science and research.
Call CCSVI Clinic; (404)461-9560 to schedule your screening today in Fargo, ND or email us at apply@ccsviclinic.ca. Yes, get screened within the US. No waiting….find out more at ccsviclinic.ca
@denabach You are right, in Italy it’s still not possible to do it so MS patients go abroad and have it done there. It’s disgusting, doctors are supposed to help sick people but it’s all about money. They interviewed a woman who had very serious difficulty walking and she came back to Italy and could walk and move with no help. It needs time, but the results so far are very promising and there is a trial in the US (dr Robert Zivadinov)
@userresu99 I have seen the results in a friend and I can swear it is not a fraud. What is a real shame is to close the eyes to the evidences.
@halleyscomet Big pharma prefers to have chronic patients
@halleyscomet I hope you won´t be at final stage of a disease. It is easy to talk about “premature” when your clock is close to stop.
@agustn “Big pharma prefers to have chronic patients”
Saying nasty things about “big pharma” won’t make a questionable treatment magically work. The fact that pharmaceutical companies profit from antibiotics doesn’t make drinking bleach a viable alternative either.
@agustn “It is easy to talk about “premature” when your clock is close to stop.”
If I were in the terminal stages of a disease, I’d rather spend my remaining time enjoying what life i had left rather than chasing after unproven quack remedies that will only lead to unnecessary surgeries and infection risks.
@Wheelchairavenger “it’s not about science anymore since at least ten years but only about business”
That’s just ignorant and silly. Quacks and frauds use that line to try and add some credibility to their snake oil, but the reality is bad medicine is being revealed and good medicine is being approved. The system isn’t perfect, but that’s no reason to jettison evidence based medicine in favor of every random quack who claims to have a cure.
@halleyscomet Well, the remaining time depends of the treatment. I have a close friend who was terminal of MS according to the doctors, he went to Bulgaria for the surgery. One week later was a new person, now he can talk and walk and enjoy his family as before this nightmare. After this 10 years of slow deterioration is improving day after day. Talking about unnecesary surgery or infection risks when you are in the horrible situation my friend was is a cruel joke or being an ignorant.
@agustn The problem with your story is I have no way to verify it. You could be telling the truth and your friend really did experience a remarkable recovery. But I have no proof that your friend even HAD MS or that they even existed. You could be lying. They could have has a psychosomatic illness that was “cured’ by a placebo.
This is why we have scientific methods for testing, evaluating and approving treatments. Anecdotes are useless as proof. Real research removes the variables.
@halleyscomet Yes. I am biochemist and also know the scientific procedures to validate a treatment or a new drug and also know a little bit about the pharma industry. The problem is when you are the person dying. You can believe me or not, I don´t really care. Maybe I even don´t exist or even you live in Matrix. Good luck and take care.
@halleyscomet I know a brand of “snake oil”: Serono
(but they build very good racing boats with snake oil buyers’ money).
For wich company do you work yourself?
@Wheelchairavenger So in your mind treatments with a long history of efficacy are “snake oil” but debunked claims of a miracle cure from a lone crank are “science.”
Riiiight.
For the record, I’m a computer programmer for a company that serves mostly religious no-profits.
History—MS was first defined as a vascular disorder in 1863, when Rindfleisch noted veins engorged with blood in autopsy brains with MS. The autoimmune paradigm began with Dr. Thomas Rivers’ animal model of EAE, which was created by injecting foreign antigens into animals’ brains, creating lesions that looked a bit like MS. Dr. Tracy Putnam created an exact replication of MS lesions by blocking the venous sinus of dogs and creating venous congestion. Drugs are created to stop EAE, not MS.
@halleyscomet If not, explain me why the efficacy-proven and not anymore under patent meds are taken off the market one after the other….
And do you still know any pharmacist able to manufacture himself a prescrided med.
Do you believe there was no pharmacy before the 80′s?
But since the 90′s only big business left, that doesn’t care making the clients sick, and cares to keep them clients = sick
Since the 90′s there has been improvements only in surgery, in pharmacy nothing but scams.
@Wheelchairavenger “explain me why the efficacy-proven and not anymore under patent meds are taken off the market one after the other”
What, like the ineffective, magic based homeopathic treatments that are still available? How about the fact that the FDA hasn’t actually BANNED MMS? Quackery has to cause a LOT of harm before it’s banned in the USA
Regardless, flaws, real or imagined, in the current system do not constitute evidence of efficacy for the “Liberation” surgery being discussed here.
@Cheerleader4MS “MS was first defined as a vascular disorder in 1863″
Right, because first impressions that are over 100 years old are ALWAYS more right than the intervening century plus of research.
@Cheerleader4MS Sadly subsequent research is indicating this is NOT the cure-all people were hoping for.
@Cheerleader4MS “It shows the vein problem they are finding in all MS patients.”
Sadly the subsequent research is showing that to not be the case. Look up the article “Venous Insufficiency in Multiple Sclerosis” by Steven Novella for more information.